When I was walking up with my wife and

three kids,

they saw my kids saw a friend of ours,

four kids, and we've both lived at Hope

House at different times, and they're

like inseparable now, the kids. So, it's

it's just a wild full circle moment

because I'm watching my kids run to his

kids and it's all because both of us

were here at one point. So, that that's

that's what it means. Hope House put me

on a path to actually not only graduate

college, but graduate law school, which

helped my wife and I some sometime down

the road open up a Ben & Jerry's. And

now we have a family business that our

kids can be a part of as well. And it

really all stems back to this path from

Hope House that I was able to take to

get to this point in